As a leadership institute, we spend a lot of time talking about how to become a better leader in a professional context. But in order to be a good leader, you must also be fulfilled in your personal life. The idea of filling your bucket means that you have outlets that help you use your own creativity and talents to find personal joy. Listen in as Vera Kimmi of Forte Group and Kevin McShane of Affinitiv share how they fill their personal buckets.



Vera Kimmi is the VP of Sales at Forte Group. For Vera, the arts, particularly theater, nourish her soul. By embracing her need to be creative and perform, she has found that she’s a lot better at connecting with people at work.

Our second guest, Kevin McShane is the Chief Revenue Officer at Affinitiv as well as a mentor at the Junto Institute. Kevin shares how reciprocity is key to his purpose. His goal is to mentor and help as many emerging leaders as he can. This service to others is his passion and having interactions with other organizations outside of his job has helped him grow as a leader.

To conclude, Raman discusses his thoughts on happiness as well as why the idea of filling your bucket is a more lasting piece of the happiness puzzle.

  • [00:23] – Welcoming Vera Kimmi, VP of Sales at Forte Group

    • [01:29] – Emotion wheel

    • [03:53] – Vera’s first recollection of leadership

    • [05:48] – Embraced in the west

    • [11:01] – Impactful sales

    • [17:16] – A bridge to everyone

    • [20:00] – Connecting in groups

    • [21:25] – Learning from the Junto Women Leadership circle

    • [24:24] – Black box acting

    • [25:38] – Muscle memory

    • [28:15] – Bend and mend your emotion

    • [32:13] – Routine discipline

    • [35:00] – Closing appreciations

  • [37:57] – Welcoming, Kevin McShane, Chief Revenue Officer at Affinitiv

    • [39:03] – Emotion wheel

    • [39:53] – Front row seat to leadership

    • [46:00]- Reciprocity

    • [49:17] – Building and scaling

    • [53:35] – Execution eats strategy for lunch

    • [55:43] – Bedrock rules for raising children

    • [59:07] – Affinity and loyalty

    • [1:00:52] – Closing appreciations

  • [1:02:35] – Reflections

The Junto Institute runs a structured, designed Apprenticeship Program that is built on deep mentorship, emotional intelligence training, and teams learning together. Originating in 2012 in Chicago, IL, over 30 companies have participated in the Junto Apprenticeship program.

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