"A lot of what I struggled with during our time at Junto didn’t hit me until after the program."

What are 1-2 leadership virtues you've observed or learned in your career?


Give people the space to make their own mistakes and learn on their own terms, and ensure that you truly understand someone else’s point of view before you make a judgement, by listening, reading them, and asking clarifying questions.

What are you working on right now?

I’m working on reframing the right level of balance between work life and family life, and finding the right level of balance within work itself between sales, client consulting, and everything else that I do.

What is your strength when it comes to emotional intelligence?

Being patient to understand people’s intentions before making a judgement.

What is your most memorable Junto moment?

Our last class was Leadership and Relationship Management with Dan Heuertz. It was the very end of the program, and was the most impactful culmination of everything that we’d gone through and learned through the Junto journey. A lot of what I struggled with during our time at Junto - like finding my anchor issues or understanding my lifeline - didn’t hit me until after the program.

How would you describe your areas of expertise based on industry, market, and/or function?

My industry and market are around cloud technology and managed services that support large enterprises. My function is a bit less defined, as I kind of do a lot of everything - client facing solutions, solution design, problem solving, and more.

What is your superpower?

Being able to understand how highly complex problems are connected. For the type of work that we do, there’s tons of technical and financial and business complexities, then you layer in people’s egos and emotions, and we sit in the middle of all of that.

What is something that's not on your LinkedIn profile that you wish was?

The complexity, depth, and specifics of the client work we’ve done.

What have you learned about yourself through participating in Junto?

How my strengths can also show up as weaknesses. For example, I’m pretty good at being patient to give people space to learn and fail, but being too patient with people has a downside in another context. I also enjoy supporting others to make them successful, but I can be too much of a people pleaser sometimes.

Finish the following sentence: "In my experience, ______________."

There is no completion of the emotional intelligence journey.

What is one book, blog, or podcast you recommend widely?

Switch by Chip and Dan Health; it’s about how people normally resist change, and how you can communicate and bring people along so that everyone feels good about embracing change.